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For the reason that launch of AMD’s Threadripper Professional platform, the need to see what eight channels of reminiscence brings to compute over the common quad-channel Threadripper has been an intriguing prospect. Threadripper Professional is successfully a sooner model of AMD’s EPYC, restricted for single CPU workstation use, but additionally heralds a full 280 W TDP to match the frequencies of the usual Threadripper line. There's a 37% value premium from Threadripper to Threadripper Professional, which permits for ECC reminiscence help, double the PCIe lanes, and double the reminiscence bandwidth. On this overview, we’re evaluating each member of each platforms that's commercially out there.

Threadripper Professional: Born of Want

When AMD embarked upon its journey with the brand new Ryzen portfolio, the delineation of the place every product sat within the conventional market has not at all times been solely clear. The primary era Ryzen was earmarked for normal shoppers, nevertheless the highest of the road Ryzen 7 1800X, with eight cores, competed towards Intel’s high-end desktop market. The Zen 2-based portfolio noticed the mainstream Ryzen go to 16 cores, pushing previous Intel’s greatest 18-core HEDT processor on the time in most exams. That Zen 2-based Ryzen 9 3950X was nonetheless categorised as a ‘mainstream platform’ processor, because it solely had 24 PCIe lanes and dual-channel reminiscence, adequate for mainstream customers however not sufficient for workstation markets. These mainstream processors had been additionally restricted to 105W TDP.

On the different finish of the dimensions was AMD EPYC, with the primary era EPYC 7601 having 32 cores, and the second era EPYC 7742 having 64 cores, as much as 225W TDP. These share the identical LGA4094 socket, have eight channels of reminiscence, full ECC help, and 128 PCIe lanes (first PCIe 3.0, then PCIe 4.0), with dual-socket help. For workstation customers involved in EPYC, AMD launched single socket ‘P’ variations. These provided the identical options, at round 200 TDP, shedding some efficiency to the common non-P variations.

AMD then launched Threadripper, a high-end desktop model of EPYC that went all the way in which as much as 280 W for peak frequency and efficiency. Threadripper sat above Ryzen with 64 PCIe lanes and quad channel reminiscence, enabling mainstream customers that needed a bit extra to get a bit extra. Nonetheless workstation customers famous that whereas 280 W was nice, it lacked official ECC reminiscence help, and in comparison with EPYC, generally the lowered reminiscence channel help and lowered PCIe in comparison with EPYC stopped Threadripper being adopted.

So enter Threadripper Professional, which sits between Threadripper and EPYC, and on this occasion, very far more on the EPYC aspect. Threadripper Professional has nearly all of the options of AMD’s EPYC platform, however in a 280W thermal envelope. It has eight channels of reminiscence help, all 128 PCIe 4.Zero lanes, and might help ECC. The one draw back to EPYC is that it will possibly solely be utilized in single socket techniques, and the height reminiscence help is halved (from Four TB to 2 TB). Threadripper Professional additionally comes at a small value premium as effectively.

AMD Comparability
AnandTech	Ryzen	Threadripper	Threadripper Professional	Enterprise EPYC
Cores	6-16	32-64	12-64	16-64
Structure	Zen 3	Zen 2	Zen 2	Zen 3
1P Flagship	R9 5950X	TR 3990X	TR Professional 3995WX	EPYC 7713P
MSRP	$799	$3990	$5490	$5010
TDP	105 W	280 W	280 W	225 W
Base Freq	3400 MHz	2900 MHz	2700 MHz	2000 MHz
Turbo Freq	4900 MHz	4300 MHz	4200 MHz	3675 MHz
Socket	AM4	sTRX40	sTRX4: WRX80	SP3
L3 Cache	64 MB	256 MB	256 MB	256 MB
DRAM	2 x DDR4-3200	Four x DDR4-3200	Eight x DDR4-3200	Eight x DDR4-3200
DRAM Capability	128 GB	256 GB	2 TB, ECC	Four TB, ECC
PCIe	4.Zero x20 + chipset	4.Zero x56 + chipset	4.Zero x120 + chipset	4.Zero x128
Professional Options	No	No	Sure	Sure

One of many greatest pulls for Threadripper and Threadripper Professional has been any market that sometimes makes use of high-speed workstations and might scale their workloads. Talking to an area OEM, the demand for Threadripper and Threadripper Professional from the visible results business has been off the charts, the place these firms are ripping out their outdated infrastructure and changing anew with AMD. This has additionally been spurned by the latest pandemic, the place these studios need to preserve the costly {hardware} onsite and permit their artists to make money working from home through distant entry.

Threadripper Professional CPUs: 4 Fashions, Three at Retail

When TR Professional launched in 2020, the processors had been a Lenovo unique for the P620 workstation. The deal between Lenovo and AMD was not disclosed, nevertheless it could seem that the exclusivity deal ran for six months, from September to February, with the processors being made retail out there on March 2nd.

Throughout that point, we had been sampled certainly one of these workstations for overview, and it nonetheless stays top-of-the-line modular techniques I’ve ever examined:

Lenovo ThinkStation P620 Evaluate: A Automobile for Threadripper Professional

AMD’s first Threadripper Professional platform has 4 processors in it, starting from 12 cores to 64 cores, mimicking their equivalents in Threadripper 3000 and EPYC 77x2 however at 280W.

AMD Ryzen Threadripper Professional
AnandTech	Cores	Base Freq	Turbo Freq	Chiplets	L3 Cache	TDP	Value SEP
3995WX	64 / 128	2700	4200	8 + 1	256 MB	280 W	$5490
3975WX	32 / 64	3500	4200	4 + 1	128 MB	280 W	$2750
3955WX	16 / 32	3900	4300	2 + 1	64 MB	280 W	$1150
3945WX	12 / 24	4000	4300	2 + 1	64 MB	280 W	OEM

Sitting on the high is the 64-core Threadripper Professional 3995WX, with a 2.7 GHz base frequency and a 4.2 GHz turbo frequency. This processor is the one one within the household to have all 256 MB of L3 cache, because it has all eight chiplets totally lively. The $5490 value is a full 37.5% enhance over the Threadripper 3990X at $3990.

AMD 64-Core Zen 2 Comparability
AnandTech	Threadripper 3990X	Threadripper Professional 3995WX	EPYC 7702P
MSRP	$3990	$5490	$4425
TDP	280 W	280 W	200 W
Base Freq	2900 MHz	2700 MHz	2000 MHz
Turbo Freq	4300 MHz	4200 MHz	3350 MHz
L3 Cache	256 MB	256 MB	256 MB
DRAM	Four x DDR4-3200	Eight x DDR4-3200	Eight x DDR4-3200
DRAM Capability	256 GB	2 TB, ECC	Four TB, ECC
PCIe	4.Zero x56 + chipset	4.Zero x120 + chipset	4.Zero x128
Professional Options	No	Sure	Sure

Center of the road is the 32-core Threadripper Professional 3975WX, with a 3.5 GHz base frequency and a 4.2 GHz turbo frequency. AMD determined to make this processor use 4 chiplets with all eight cores on every chiplet, resulting in 128 MB of L3 cache complete. At $2750, it is usually 37.5% costlier than the equal 32-core Threadripper 3970X.

AMD 32-Core Zen 2 Comparability
AnandTech	Threadripper 3970X	Threadripper Professional 3975WX	EPYC 7501P
MSRP	$3990	$2750	$2300
TDP	280 W	280 W	180 W
Base Freq	3700 MHz	3500 MHz	2500 MHz
Turbo Freq	4500 MHz	4200 MHz	3350 MHz
L3 Cache	128 MB	128 MB	128 MB
DRAM	Four x DDR4-3200	Eight x DDR4-3200	Eight x DDR4-3200
DRAM Capability	256 GB	2 TB, ECC	Four TB, ECC
PCIe	4.Zero x56 + chipset	4.Zero x120 + chipset	4.Zero x128
Professional Options	No	Sure	Sure

The next two processors don't have any Threadripper equivalents, but additionally signify a barely totally different situation that we’ll discover on this overview. Each the 3955WX and 3945WX, regardless of being a part of the massive Threadripper Professional household, solely use two chiplets of their design: Eight core per chipet for the 3955 WX and 6 core per chiplet for the 3945WX. This implies these processors solely have 64 MB of L3 cache, making them considerably an identical to the Ryzen 9 3950X and Ryzen 9 3900X, besides the IO die means there's eight channels of reminiscence and 128 PCIe lanes right here.

AMD 16-Core Zen 2/Three Comparability
AnandTech	Ryzen 9 3950X	Threadripper Professional 3955WX	Ryzen 9 5950X
MSRP	$749	$1150	$799
TDP	105 W	280 W	105 W
Base Freq	3500 MHz	3900 MHz	3400 MHz
Turbo Freq	4700 MHz	4300 MHz	4900 MHz
L3 Cache	64 MB	64 MB	64 MB
DRAM	2 x DDR4-3200	Eight x DDR4-3200	2 x DDR4-3200
DRAM Capability	128 GB	2 TB, ECC	128 GB
PCIe	4.Zero x20 + chipset	4.Zero x120 + chipset	4.Zero x20 + chipset
Professional Options	No	Sure	No
Motherboard Price	--	+++	--

The 3955WX has the next base frequency, however the 3950X has the upper turbo frequency. The 3950X can be cheaper, and motherboards are cheaper! It could be price partitioning these out right into a separate comparability overview.

The ultimate Threadripper Professional processor, the 3945WX, doesn't have a value, as a result of AMD shouldn't be making it out there at retail. This half is for chosen OEM prospects solely it appears; maybe the restricted substrate assets available in the market proper now makes it unappealing to make too many of those? Arduous to say.

Motherboards: Beware!

Regardless of being based mostly on the identical LGA4094 socket as each Threadripper and EPYC, Threadripper Professional has its personal distinctive WRX80 platform that needs to be used as a substitute. Solely choose distributors appear to have entry/licenses to make WRX80 motherboards, and your essential choices are:

All three boards use a transposed LGA4094 socket, eight DDR4 reminiscence slots, and 6-7 PCIe 4.Zero slots.

Although beware! There may be an possibility of discovering an outdated/refurbished Lenovo P620 motherboard. It's price noting that Lenovo is exercising an AMD characteristic for OEMs: processors utilized in that Lenovo motherboard will likely be locked to Lenovo ceaselessly. That is a part of AMD’s assured provide chain course of, permitting OEMs to exhausting lock processors into sure distributors for provide chain end-to-end safety that's requested by particular prospects. In that occasion, in the event you would possibly ever need to break down your system to improve and dump elements, it's not beneficial you discover a Lenovo TR Professional system until you purchase/promote it as a complete.

This Evaluate

The primary objective of this overview is to check the entire Threadripper Professional 3000 {hardware} and examine towards the equal Threadripper 3000 to get a way of how a lot efficiency is gained by the elevated reminiscence bandwidth, or misplaced as a result of slight core frequency variations. We're additionally together with Intel’s greatest HEDT/workstation processor for comparability, the W-3175X, in addition to the highest consumer-grade processors available on the market. All techniques are examined at JEDEC specs.

Take a look at Setup
AMD TR Professional	3995WX 3975WX 3955WX	ASUS Professional WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WiFi	BIOS 0405	IceGiant Thermosiphon	Kingston 8x16 GB DDR4-3200 ECC
AMD TR	TR 3990X TR 3970X TR 3960X	ASRock TRX40 Taichi	BIOS P1.70	IceGiant Thermosiphon	ADATA 4x32 GB DDR4-3200
AMD Ryzen	R9 5950X	GIGABYTE X570 I Aorus Professional	BIOS F31L	Noctua NH-U12S	ADATA 4x32 GB DDR4-3200
Intel Core	i9-11900Okay	ASUS Maximus XIII Hero	BIOS 0703	Thermalright TRUE Copper*	ADATA 4x32 GB DDR4-3200
Intel Xeon	Xeon W-3175X	ASUS ROG Dominus Excessive	BIOS 0601	Asetek 690LX-PN	DDR4-2666 ECC
GPU	Sapphire RX 460 2GB (CPU Exams)
PSU	Numerous (inc. Corsair AX860i)
SSD	Essential MX500 2TB
*Silverstone SST-FHP141-VF 173 CFM followers additionally used. Good and loud.

Many due to Kingston for supplying a full set of KSM32RD8/16MEI - 16x16 GB of DDR4-3200 ECC RDIMMs for enterprise testing in techniques like Threadripper Professional.

As a part of this overview, we're additionally showcasing the 64 core processors in 128T mode in addition to 64T mode. That is being executed to showcase how some processors can get higher efficiency by having higher reminiscence bandwidth per thread - one of many points with these excessive core depend processors is the restricted quantity of reminiscence bandwidth every thread can entry. Additionally, some working techniques (comparable to Home windows) battle above 64 threads as a consequence of using thread teams.